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I am attempting my first try at making a rice crispy treat figure and covering it in MM fondat. I have made the figure (an owl) and I covered it in melted candy melts. How far in advance can I put the fondant on the figure before I need it for the cake? I'm going to put this in an air-tight Tupperware container to keep it as fresh as possible. And do I need to put this in the refrigerator? Thanks for your input.

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I've made a lot of figures far in advance of the actual cake making process. Of course, mine aren't expected to be eaten as part of the cake, so to speak. They are more just for decoration and to be kept as a keepsake. I'm sure if you kept it in a container it will be fine. I don't think it needs to be in the frig. In fact, keeping it in the refrigerator may cause it to collect condensation and then become discolored. As long as you have it in the container, I think it should hold up well. How far in advance is the actual venue?

Thanks for your advice. It's a week away. Next Saturday. I don't expect it to be eaten either, but you never know! I probably won't get around to working on it again until Wednesday though.

Lynn, you didn't ask about this, but I thought I'd throw it out there ... I use a half-and-half mixture of candy clay and fondant whenever I cover cereal treat sculptures.  The candy clay makes the fondant very pliable -- no seams or cracks when you're finished -- but the fondant keeps the candy clay from being to soft to work with for an extended period. The covered sculpture sets up very quickly if it's put in the fridge for 5 - 10 min.  That's helpful if you're covering individual parts, and want to assemble them quickly.

Thanks Mary Ann. I made my own MM fondant which seemed pretty pliant. But I had seen some comments elsewhere that mentioned adding gum paste to fondant. I'm just not sure if I need to do any of this or not. Do I want to allow fondant to set up before I add other fondant pieces to it?

Mary Ann Brooks said:

Lynn, you didn't ask about this, but I thought I'd throw it out there ... I use a half-and-half mixture of candy clay and fondant whenever I cover cereal treat sculptures.  The candy clay makes the fondant very pliable -- no seams or cracks when you're finished -- but the fondant keeps the candy clay from being to soft to work with for an extended period. The covered sculpture sets up very quickly if it's put in the fridge for 5 - 10 min.  That's helpful if you're covering individual parts, and want to assemble them quickly.

I've used marshmallow fondant for years.  I love that stuff!!

I sometimes have trouble with a fondant-gumpaste mix, if I'm trying to cover an odd-shaped sculpture, especially if I have to work with it for any length of time.  The fondant-gumpaste has a tendency to leave seams and look "dry", and it's not forgiving.  

The fondant-candy clay mix is very forgiving.  After I get my sculpture covered, I usually let it set up in the fridge for about 5 - 10 min. before I add other pieces to it.  The candy-clay mix doesn't get hard if it's in the fridge for that length of time, but it's not overly soft, either.

Maybe you'll have a bit of time to experiment with the fondant-gumpaste and the fondant-candy clay mixes to see which one works best for you, if you're interested ... I think you'll be very pleased with the fondant-clay!

Mary Ann, I am curious....is your candy clay similar to modeling chocolate? I don't think I have ever used candy clay.

Mary Ann Brooks said:

I've used marshmallow fondant for years.  I love that stuff!!

I sometimes have trouble with a fondant-gumpaste mix, if I'm trying to cover an odd-shaped sculpture, especially if I have to work with it for any length of time.  The fondant-gumpaste has a tendency to leave seams and look "dry", and it's not forgiving.  

The fondant-candy clay mix is very forgiving.  After I get my sculpture covered, I usually let it set up in the fridge for about 5 - 10 min. before I add other pieces to it.  The candy-clay mix doesn't get hard if it's in the fridge for that length of time, but it's not overly soft, either.

Maybe you'll have a bit of time to experiment with the fondant-gumpaste and the fondant-candy clay mixes to see which one works best for you, if you're interested ... I think you'll be very pleased with the fondant-clay!

Yes, I am interested in the answer to Linda's question as well

Yes, Linda and June, same thing!  I use the recipe that most people do:  16 oz. chocolate wafers and 1/3 c. corn syrup .... melt chocolate, then add syrup.

Ah, I call it modelling clay, so when you said "candy clay" it through me off. I have made chocolate modelling clay, but never white.  Do you use merkens white chocolate for your white?? I never thought of mixing the clay with the fondant.

Well actually I have for making roses, but never thought to do it for making figures. I usually just do the fondant/gumpaste mixture, or fondant with tylose powder mixed in. But I can see how the addition of the clay would help keep the figures supple with no cracks. Gonna try that next time.

Thanks Mary Ann. You do learn something new everyday!!!

Thank you Mary Ann, I had never heard of mixing it with fondant either. I'm glad I learned something new today. Can't wait to give this a try.

Mary Ann Brooks said:

Yes, Linda and June, same thing!  I use the recipe that most people do:  16 oz. chocolate wafers and 1/3 c. corn syrup .... melt chocolate, then add syrup.

Unfortunately, I can't get Merkens in my area, and can't remember which brand I'm currently using ... it's a new one to me.  I switched to it after being very disappointed with Wilton's when I tried to dip cake balls.  I don't know if my current brand is as good as Merkens, but it's much better than Wilton's!  I've made modeling chocolate/candy clay with both white and milk chocolate, and they work fine.

Btw, one thing I found that works great to make quick roses, is a mix of gumpaste, tylose, and candy clay.  The layers of petals set up very quickly.   


It's mind-boggling how much there is to learn in cake decorating, isn't it?!  Always new ideas and mediums out there. :)

June Kowalczyk said:

Ah, I call it modelling clay, so when you said "candy clay" it through me off. I have made chocolate modelling clay, but never white.  Do you use merkens white chocolate for your white?? I never thought of mixing the clay with the fondant.

Well actually I have for making roses, but never thought to do it for making figures. I usually just do the fondant/gumpaste mixture, or fondant with tylose powder mixed in. But I can see how the addition of the clay would help keep the figures supple with no cracks. Gonna try that next time.

Thanks Mary Ann. You do learn something new everyday!!!

You're welcome, Linda!  I hope it works for you.

Linda Wolff said:

Thank you Mary Ann, I had never heard of mixing it with fondant either. I'm glad I learned something new today. Can't wait to give this a try.

Mary Ann Brooks said:

Yes, Linda and June, same thing!  I use the recipe that most people do:  16 oz. chocolate wafers and 1/3 c. corn syrup .... melt chocolate, then add syrup.

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