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HELP! I need a recipe for gumpaste that doesn't involve gum tragacanth/tylose/cmc (is it even possible??)... i tried this, and it was a disaster. didn't even hold. it ended up looking like crumbs..

1/4 c water

1 sachet gelatin powder

1 T corn syrup

1 pound powdered sugar

I don't have access to to gum tragacanth/tylose/cmc. the nearest cake supplies store that MIGHT have this is 2 hours away from where i live, so I was hoping if anyone could help me. I'd appreciate it a lot. :)

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The gum or tylose/cmc is what make it gum paste--you can order it online from places like: Global Sugar Art  No Michael's or JoAnn's or AC Moore near you?  They sell it, too (as Gum Tex), in the Wilton Cake supplies dept.

Have you thought of cold porcelain? Easy to make. I have made it & used it. Works great. But it does shrink quite a bit when it dries.  Posted a recipe below.  I used white glue & baby oil for the oil. Got at the dollar store. To be completely food safe tho Shaira, use mineral oil. Found in most grocery or drug stores.Hope this helps Shaira.   :o)

Cold Porcelain Clay courtesy of Fiona Guagliano

You can see some of Fiona's beautiful clay figurines by clicking here.

Her creations are both stunning and whimsical and are certain to inspire new craft ideas in you.

[I read somewhere in a Spanish website that authentic cold porcelain clay contains alabaster powder, but no matter, this looks like porcelain to me.]

  • 1. Combine in a Teflon-coated pot:
    • 1 cup polyvinyl acetate glue such as Elmer's Glue-All
    • 1 cup cornstarch
    • 2 tablespoons Vaseline oil (not jelly) - if unavailable where you live, substitute baby oil or pharmaceutical grade mineral oil
    • 1 tablespoon lemon juice.
  • 2. Cook on low heat stirring constantly for 10 minutes or until dough forms and begins to come away from the sides. If you have a gas stove, you may need to use a heat diffuser under the pot to avoid burning the dough.
  • 3. Remove from heat and allow to cool until you can handle it.
  • 4. Knead into a smooth clay consistency.
  • 5. Store in a cool, dark place as noted in tips above.
  • 6. Tempura powder or acrylic paints may be used for coloring the dough

As this is pastillage, not gumpaste, it does not act/work the same as the other.

Coming from the point that ingredients don't precisely match from country to country ..

I was taught to model using a similar recipe:

Three points

1. not enough water

2. slightly too much gelatine

3. no "method" mentioned

Pastillage

1/3 cup water [1]

2 tsp powdered gelatin [2]

3 tsp corn syrup

4 cups confectioner's sugar [~ 1 lb]

Soak gelatine in warm water for 15 minutes.

Sift sugar into a bowl.

When gelatine has been absorbed into the water, stand in saucepan of hot water and stir gently to dissolve.

Add syrup to the gelatine mixture.

When clear and free of lumps, pour into the sugar, stirring with a knife.

When it comes together knead into a ball. Wrap in plastic wrap and seal in an airtight container.

The mixture needs to stand for a least 4 hours before using - overnight is best. You must allow it to "cure".

To use, dust your surface with icing sugar, and knead the mixture until it is smooth.

When not in use, re-wrap in plastic, and then airtight container for storage. Note: if uncovered it will quickly become hard and unusable, so cover at all times.

This dries quickly, very hard, and can be rolled very thinly [brittle if man-handled], It is excellent for structural elements. It does not work in a 50/50 sugarpaste mix.

[Note: cold porcelain should not come into contact with the cake or icing ..]

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Cold porcelain is NON TOXIC and CAN be placed on a cake. In the recipe I posted I stated I used baby oil. 2nd time I used mineral oil. That can be bought at most grocery & drug stores. That is the safest. Lemon juice stops the growth of bacteria. Cold porcelain will not last indefinitely without being preserved. But if a lacquer or varnish is applied to make it shiny, then you mustn't place on a cake without some sort of barrier between the cold porcelain & the cake.
Pastillage is good, but you have to work VERY fast. It dried to quickly for me. If you are popping it into a mould, or making something that doesn't require a lot of time, then great. But that is just my preference.

thank you everyone :)

Have you tried using modeling chocolate? I'm not sure what you are planning to us the product for so this might now work.


You can find the recipes here: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/MODELING-CHOCOLATE-1...

There are lots of people who post recipes and they are all pretty well the same. Or, do a search on You Tube.

I just bought the first ingredients yesterday for modeling chocolate and can't wait to give it a try

Happy Caking,

Joyce

Only trouble is JCC
Modeling clay, either chocolate or white, doesn't go "hard" & that is what Shaira is looking for. Plus in the humid climate where she lives m/clay just won't cut it for making stiff flowers.

thank you Joy... i appreciate the help.. however, i don't think modelling chocolate would be suitable.. aside from the extreme heat and humidity in the place i live, I have "heater hands" lol I'm planning to use the gumpaste for making flowers. :)

Perhaps you may want to consider ordering product online if you are not able to get it locally. I do that often and generally with great success. The product usually arrives fairly quickly and well packaged. I live in Nova Scotia so generally it is not so hot, but this week WOW it is pretty hot! Perhaps I will waiting until this hot spell ends before I try my hand at modeling chocolate. I hope you are able to find what you need Shaira, happy caking J:~D

thank you joy :)

Joy's Creative Cakes said:

Perhaps you may want to consider ordering product online if you are not able to get it locally. I do that often and generally with great success. The product usually arrives fairly quickly and well packaged. I live in Nova Scotia so generally it is not so hot, but this week WOW it is pretty hot! Perhaps I will waiting until this hot spell ends before I try my hand at modeling chocolate. I hope you are able to find what you need Shaira, happy caking J:~D

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