decorating terms
hi guys i'm trying to learn as i go and to make sure i have all the terminology right. ure help would be greatly appreciated. (please dont laugh, i'm a tru tru beginner, whose first job is coming up in a week)
so here goes,
1) when u colour a flower after making it is it called dusting or painting? or does it depend on what u use? and how do u do it?
2) this techique in this cake (pic below) what is it called (the red part)?
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Permalink Reply by Sherry Qualls on
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Kim,
On the flowers, if you use chalks/petal dust it is called dusting, if you use gel paste/vodka (or vanilla or any extract) it is called painting, but most flowers are dusted (you can color the gum paste, in this case red) and then dust to give the flower life and dimension.
On the cake (the squiggly lines or scrolls as they are called) are referred to as scroll work or piping and can be done in buttercream or royal icing.
and that is one beautiful cake!!
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Permalink Reply by Marta Phillips on
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Kim, congratulations on your first job coming up! I know you will do great! Did you want to know how to use petal dust or how to paint your flowers?
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Permalink Reply by Kim Washington on
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both i guessss!
Marta Phillips said:Kim, congratulations on your first job coming up! I know you will do great! Did you want to know how to use petal dust or how to paint your flowers?
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thanks Sherry u cleared up a whole heap. i too am in awe of the cake its from wilton site they have instructions but they left me in a daze thats why i came here to find out what they did
Sherry Qualls said:Kim,
On the flowers, if you use chalks/petal dust it is called dusting, if you use gel paste/vodka (or vanilla or any extract) it is called painting, but most flowers are dusted (you can color the gum paste, in this case red) and then dust to give the flower life and dimension.
On the cake (the squiggly lines or scrolls as they are called) are referred to as scroll work or piping and can be done in buttercream or royal icing.
and that is one beautiful cake!!
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Permalink Reply by Karen Marie on
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To dust a flower you use petal dust. Some people use artist's pastels but for beginners it is easier to use the dust already prepared. You can buy them at www.fondantsource.com they have the cheapest prices on petal dust I have found...just $1.99 a color. You take a synthetic or sable flat brush (soft bristles not hard), dip into the dust and use the cap to knock off the excess into. Working from the cap lightly brush the edges of the flower and then if you like you can add a little to the center of the flower to give it a 3D look. A very little goes a long way...Your first ones wont turn out like you want but you have to practice to get the feel of it. So dont worry that you may have ruined it...just remember less is best...you can always go back over a place you want more color on...once the color is on you cant take it off.
The best time to dust s flower is when it is still in the leather-hard stage or set but not completely hard. Dust gently so you dont bend any petals. I would say wait 30 minutes after you make the flower before you dust it. You can blend colors, layer them or just use one at a time...experiment and look at LOTS of flower pictures to get ideas for natural shading and colors. You can also use a non toxic marker for the dark dots on flowers like orchids and lillies. Put those on over the petal dusts.
You can also use luster dusts (metallic and opalescent) and petal dusts to get solid colors to paint on by mixing a little alcohol...use clear vodka or clear extract like almond or lemon...it wont mix with water....make into a thin paste like tempera paints..then just brush on and let dry. You can paint dry royal icing with this too. I think you can do buttercream only if it is the crusting kind..I have never tried it on buttercream because I use Swiss buttercream and it never hardends.
By the way the red part in that pic looks like it was done on fondant...you can paint on fondant too.
To set the dust colors, boil some water in a pot and hold the flowers in the steam for a minute or so to give them a little shine...not too long or you will melt the flowers...
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Permalink Reply by jeri c on
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Is this the cake you are attempting for your first time??? That cake is amazing... It looks like there are gumpaste pieces with the design drawn onto them using an edible food color marker... lots of tediuos work. If you are doing those, make the gumpaste pieces first and allow them to dry all the way about 2 days before you attempt to draw on them. The marker will work better on dry gumpaste. I'd use petal dust if you wan to shade your flowers.. if not, use Red satin ice and mix tylose powder into them and make your flowers already colored and you will not have to dust them. They will look more realistic if you dust them but starting with them red already will be easier than dusting them from the white stage.
If this is your first cake... I hope you have some experience... this is a pretty big undertaking for a first cake. I do not want to discourage you but I've been doing this for 30+ years and don't know that I'd want to take that project on without a big $$$$ price behind it.
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thanks much, great help
Karen Marie said:To dust a flower you use petal dust. Some people use artist's pastels but for beginners it is easier to use the dust already prepared. You can buy them at www.fondantsource.com they have the cheapest prices on petal dust I have found...just $1.99 a color. You take a synthetic or sable flat brush (soft bristles not hard), dip into the dust and use the cap to knock off the excess into. Working from the cap lightly brush the edges of the flower and then if you like you can add a little to the center of the flower to give it a 3D look. A very little goes a long way...Your first ones wont turn out like you want but you have to practice to get the feel of it. So dont worry that you may have ruined it...just remember less is best...you can always go back over a place you want more color on...once the color is on you cant take it off.
The best time to dust s flower is when it is still in the leather-hard stage or set but not completely hard. Dust gently so you dont bend any petals. I would say wait 30 minutes after you make the flower before you dust it. You can blend colors, layer them or just use one at a time...experiment and look at LOTS of flower pictures to get ideas for natural shading and colors. You can also use a non toxic marker for the dark dots on flowers like orchids and lillies. Put those on over the petal dusts.
You can also use luster dusts (metallic and opalescent) and petal dusts to get solid colors to paint on by mixing a little alcohol...use clear vodka or clear extract like almond or lemon...it wont mix with water....make into a thin paste like tempera paints..then just brush on and let dry. You can paint dry royal icing with this too. I think you can do buttercream only if it is the crusting kind..I have never tried it on buttercream because I use Swiss buttercream and it never hardends.
By the way the red part in that pic looks like it was done on fondant...you can paint on fondant too.
To set the dust colors, boil some water in a pot and hold the flowers in the steam for a minute or so to give them a little shine...not too long or you will melt the flowers...
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noooooo jeri! i'm not that ambitious i would go crazy, no my first cake is a simple 1st birthday cake, i'm actually very excited about that! but thanks for the advice
jeri c said:Is this the cake you are attempting for your first time??? That cake is amazing... It looks like there are gumpaste pieces with the design drawn onto them using an edible food color marker... lots of tediuos work. If you are doing those, make the gumpaste pieces first and allow them to dry all the way about 2 days before you attempt to draw on them. The marker will work better on dry gumpaste. I'd use petal dust if you wan to shade your flowers.. if not, use Red satin ice and mix tylose powder into them and make your flowers already colored and you will not have to dust them. They will look more realistic if you dust them but starting with them red already will be easier than dusting them from the white stage.
If this is your first cake... I hope you have some experience... this is a pretty big undertaking for a first cake. I do not want to discourage you but I've been doing this for 30+ years and don't know that I'd want to take that project on without a big $$$$ price behind it.
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Permalink Reply by ebony bardell on
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I just made my first cake, a number one for my babies first birthday :)
Kim Washington said:noooooo jeri! i'm not that ambitious i would go crazy, no my first cake is a simple 1st birthday cake, i'm actually very excited about that! but thanks for the advice jeri c said:Is this the cake you are attempting for your first time??? That cake is amazing... It looks like there are gumpaste pieces with the design drawn onto them using an edible food color marker... lots of tediuos work. If you are doing those, make the gumpaste pieces first and allow them to dry all the way about 2 days before you attempt to draw on them. The marker will work better on dry gumpaste. I'd use petal dust if you wan to shade your flowers.. if not, use Red satin ice and mix tylose powder into them and make your flowers already colored and you will not have to dust them. They will look more realistic if you dust them but starting with them red already will be easier than dusting them from the white stage.
If this is your first cake... I hope you have some experience... this is a pretty big undertaking for a first cake. I do not want to discourage you but I've been doing this for 30+ years and don't know that I'd want to take that project on without a big $$$$ price behind it.
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